No likee, no clickee.
Well, the Ron/Hermione is certainly canon now, isn't it? Although Ron/Lavender is also, sadly. Sadly for Lavender, mostly, because even though she's not my type of girl, at least she's not the utter ass in the relationship that Ron is. In between hiding from his girlfriend and needing the idea of the lucky potion to play decent quidditch, I'm not that impressed with Ron this book. Grow a pair already, Gryffindor! He seems like a nice, average 16 year old boy: and I'm not much impressed with those either. *grin*
And the Harry/Ginny? Well, the break-up during a funeral because the angsty hero needs to focus on his huge and looming responsibilities couldn't have been lifted any more directly from the end of Spiderman unless they renamed him Harry Parker and made him stare longingly after his redheaded ex-girlfriend... oh wait. *rolls eyes*
I have no particular Ginny hate, now that she's grown out of the doormat stage, but I have no love either. And why is that? Because JKR had the hero's love interest missing from most of the book and all of the plot. I think I could like this new and improved Ginny- if I knew something about her besides quidditch, red hair and Ron's little sister. Oh, and she's apparently not afraid of kissing, which is good for my inner feminist, I suppose, but still gives me no idea of her as a person. Plus, I guess I'm not that big on the whole girl-next-door grows up and gets noticed cliche, but she is better than Harry's other het options, I suppose.
OTOH, go Remus/Tonks! And the Bill/Fleur interaction was quite cute, and heartwarming at the end, though it was sad to see Molly, Hermione and Ginny behaving like petty bitches at the beginning of the book, just because Fleur is pretty. Now that I think about it, JKR basically has Tonks totally fall apart for a whole school year because things don't initially work out for her and Remus, and that's at odds with my idea of what a sane, adult 20-something would do too. Guess JKR doesn't think highly of her own gender, eh?
Although not many people came off well in this book, really. Ginny improved, but as I said before, it's easy to improve on such a shallowly fleshed out character. And the men seemed to have it nearly as bad. Dumbledore might have been trying to make some obscure point to Harry with all the pensieve memories, but the fact remains that he kept Harry in the dark about quite a bit even 'til the end, and seems to have no qualms with encouraging him to partake in situations far beyond him, advanced DADA student or not. Just having a few decent conversations with Harry would have saved a lot of time and explained a lot more to Harry... all that enigmatic crap did was allow Harry to reach his own unstable 16 year old conclusions; and Harry's priorities were hardly in the right place.
Harry was certainly more obsessed with Malfoy than with Voldemort this book, that's for sure. (And also more obsessed with him than Ginny, or even quidditch.) Which is a bit scary since I know that JKR is intending to write Harry straight, and apparently thinks that a straight boy would leave his girl crush and his team to investigate his rival, if given a chance. Well, maybe on her planet.
Although Harry was an ass about Draco crying: a less petty person, or just a smarter one, would have tried to turn Malfoy instead of tail him. But wait, you say, Harry was right, Draco turned out to be evil at the end! Well, or at least a confused boy being blackmailed in fear of his life. Draco certainly does not come off as impressive, but he does come off sympathetically, at least to me on my initial reading.
And Snape: well, we shall see. I still am holding a hunch that Snape and Dumbledore had foreseen some of what happened, and that Snape might have been acting in the best interests of the Order when he did what he did. Or perhaps not, he makes a deliciously clever villian if he really has turned, so I've nothing riding on the theory either way. Voldemort certainly seems quite foolish at times, Snape seems to be by far the bigger challenge if he's really "teh evil" now, and not just going along with some cooked up Dumbledorian plot, and perhaps attempting to rescue Malfoy in the bargain.
ETA: I guess I do have one quibble with Snape turning out to be evil, after all. If that turns out to be true then indeed all the Slytherins we know by name will have turned out to be either evil, prats, or dumb as rocks. It would devalue the more nuanced picture I thought JKR was creating if there are no redeemable Slytherins what-so-ever, and would change the book in my mind from being an enjoyable fantasy series to an enjoyable children's series. Which is what it was intended for, true, but I'd stop rec'ing it to adults if it turns out to be THAT black and white. Brave house, Smart house, Friendly house, house of the ultimate evil... *wink*
And I'm kind of hoping that JKR won't always associate ambitiousness and planning with 'All that is evil and nasty', unless she really thinks that brave enough to risk your life for no perceptible gain is the highest and best character trait going; which, you never know. *grin*
And so having said all that, did I enjoy the book? More so than OoTP, certainly. CAPSLOCK!Harry is dead, though his memory still haunts Hogwarts quite effectively, and her editors did seem to encourage JKR to use the bulk of the book for plot points, and not abuse with the Dursleys or pre-school rituals. I think that all the (main) characters remain vividly depicted and refreshingly human, although perhaps a bit too much so: I do like a LITTLE bit of shiny on my heroes. I am genuinely curious about the end, and remain invested in the characters, even though I am beginning to suspect that I am rooting for the wrong ones, as Dumbledore's death didn't phase me a bit. But if book seven was to come out tomorrow, I'd go to get it, even if meant standing in line (again!) for 3 hours, so I guess that's all the affirmative review that an author could want.
If you've read it, tell me what you think! (Both of the book and my opinions.) *grin*
ETA: Yeah, I did only receive the book 2.5 hours ago, what's your quibble? I read fast.
July 16 2005, 23:49:38 UTC 6 years ago
I really liked the Bill/Fleur thing at the end, and was irritated by the girls all treating her like garbage through the book ... c'mon, girls, is your selfesteem really that bad? I think that that's why Lavender and Pansy come off so bad ... JKR seems to hate pretty girls. **shrug**
Also, having Snape go all eb1L! in the sort of mouldy voldy way seemed really OOC. We got a much nicer, more complex view of Draco, but then she not only took away Snape's complexities, but gave us that favour seeking, brown nosing couch man! The very stereotype of Slytherin that I hate. Apart from the eb1L.
July 17 2005, 00:58:42 UTC 6 years ago
The Slug-man was a gross caricature, to be sure, but so have all the DOD teachers been, except Remus.
And I think you're right about JKR hating pretty girls, and also apparently the well-off. Seems like maybe she thinks the Slytherin kids have so many advantages in terms of dollars, that it shouldn't matter that they're discriminated against or not well cared for otherwise, when any sane person would choose a happy childhood over a rich one. You'd think that JKR would have learned by now that money doesn't by happiness. And if she thinks it does, then she's shallow on a level I don't even want to begin to contemplate.
And back on the pretty thing: even though Fleur comes through for Bill in the end, she's apparently socially inept otherwise, with the comments she was making. And Lavender is an absolute airhead, with the Won-Won and the necklace: but at least she's genuine in her affection, unlike jerk!Ron.
I also agree with you on the "shippers paradise" thing... maybe she's been reading to many wank wars and felt she had to respond. *rolls eyes* I don't think I'd mind R/T if T didn't have to fall apart to accomplish it. It doesn't even preclude R/S because at this point, S is dead, and everyone's entitled to move on. But it still doesn't seem like much of a match, maturity-wise. *sigh*
July 17 2005, 04:31:46 UTC 6 years ago
I can never really pin down what JKR thinks. She tends to say one thing, and do another with a lot of different issues.
See, that is what is so irritating to me. I've seen this said on my flist, but why does she keep hammering into our heads throughout the books that it's not where you come from, it's the choices you make, if Tom Riddle came from a whole line of inbred psychotics? He was raised away from them and he was STILL an inbred psychopath.
Even if Fleur is socially inept (and I don't blame her if she is, she IS English second language and it's pretty damn easy to seem like an ass when you're not communicating in your own language) it still just seemed really hateful, the way the Weasleys treated her. And Percy!! He came there expecting to be attacked, and he was! With mashed potatoes or parsnips or whatever! Ugh. But there's that double standard again. When Slytherins (or Others) do it, it's because they're bad people. When Gryffindors (or Weasleys) do it, it's because They deserve it.
July 17 2005, 05:47:44 UTC 6 years ago
And I abhor practical jokers, BTW, since amusement at others expense has NEVER been funny to me, no matter how cute or well-written the twins are.
I also agree with you that Fleur is probably doing the best she can, considering, not just with language issues, but with cultural ones, and JKR putting her in a negative light for most of the book just seems petty to me.
And you're absolutely right about JKR mixing up her lessons in the way she treats heritage: not only is Voldemort teh evil at least in part because he's an inbred physco, we've heard a million times about how Harry's performance would make his parents proud or he's a chip off the old block, despite the fact that he has never interacted in any meaningful way with these dead people. So whatever influence JKR is ascribing to them, it's obviously genetic. Mixed messages, indeed.
July 17 2005, 23:34:23 UTC 6 years ago
Yeah, I agree with you. Fred and George's antics sound amusing on paper, but when you stop and think about how horrible you'd feel if they singled you out to do something like that ... and I definitely get the impression that you either laugh with them or become a joke yourself (unless you're Hermione). I like the twins because they're twins (I can't help it) and because JKR actually writes them like two different people instead of just calling them "the twins" all the time (so refreshing), but man, they are cruel to a horrible degree.
I guess JKR gives us a lot of mixed messages ... ugh, we could spend weeks discussing that alone!!
July 18 2005, 23:35:56 UTC 6 years ago
Quite. *grin*
July 18 2005, 17:18:44 UTC 6 years ago
July 18 2005, 23:35:05 UTC 6 years ago
And my best guess would be that most of JKRs renewed happiness comes from the new marriage and kids, even if she associates those blessing with money. Hopefully her spouse would love her just the same if she lost it all, and hopefully that love would still make her happy if they were impoverished.
I actually think it's harder to be rich and live a good and fulfilling life than it is to be poor and do so, precisely because there's not time or energy left to make it all about you, and there's also less things tempting you. Great wealth seems almost like a hindrance you have to overcome to be a good person, because those internal battles against ourself are much more difficult than the external kind.
July 18 2005, 02:15:31 UTC 6 years ago
yea, verily . .
I agree with most of what you've written. I'll be posting my own review/ critique in a short bit. I think I'll address most of your points there.^_^
July 18 2005, 05:24:46 UTC 6 years ago
Re: yea, verily . .
Ooooh! *rushes over to your LJ*July 18 2005, 03:59:15 UTC 6 years ago
I feel... uncomfortable with the ending
I am reluctant to believe Snape is evil, no matter what everyone thinks (everyone meaning Harry and his friends). With every father figure disappearing, only the Weasleys are left to die, right? Unless Snape steps up in book 7, which I'm assuming will happen.I too felt the romances were thrown in to satisfy fanfic/slash fans. Sometimes it felt like an afterthought, but perhaps I read too much of it! (Methinks this could definitely be the case).
Dumbledore dying - I care not. His arc was over in book 5, and it seemed drawn out to me. Also with Hagrid. I just don't care about them anymore! That may be heartless, I know. I did appreciate him imparting more of his wisdom before dying. That was thoughtful.
I don't want H/H/R to grow up and skip their last year of Hogwarts. Here's to hoping that won't really happen; it could turn too much into a Robert Jordan series where all the characters have their own dramas and don't come together until the end, and this kind of writing bores me to tears. I think the dynamics between classmates isn't over yet, and I don't want to see the end of it. I think there is still room for Malfoy to undergo major personality conflicts/changes.
One thing I expected to happen this year and didn't was the increasing role of Neville. I still think it could happen. Someone has to take care of Ginny now, in JK's world, and I'm thinking that could be his role. We all know he will end up teaching Herbology, right? :)
Back to the romances, there was a definite undercurrent that more was going on than Rowling was telling us. Or again, I read too much fanfic. Whee!
July 18 2005, 05:20:05 UTC 6 years ago
Re: I feel... uncomfortable with the ending
I hope that Hogwarts remains open in at least some capacity for the next year also, and for the same reason: more chance for student interaction. So far we've still not seen anything in the way of all school unity as was requested by the sorting hat in the previous book, so that's a hanging bit, too.I also hope there's something in the cards for Neville, and Ginny and herbology professorship would suit me just fine.
And of course my biggest wish is that the Snape bru-ha-ha is part of a masterplan for the light: we shall see.
July 20 2005, 06:31:24 UTC 6 years ago
:)
love ya!
July 20 2005, 06:54:36 UTC 6 years ago
*grin*
July 24 2005, 04:20:00 UTC 6 years ago
Fleur (sp?) and the girl's jealousy of her. From what I remember of book 4 I think that it's more than just an on the surface jealousy. Don't veela's have this pheremone type thing that drive men wild? She's part veela and I attributed a good chunk of their reactions to her to that. Perhaps not directly, as in it affected them, but rather the way they saw it affect all the men around her, not just Bill. I think they, on some level, were concerned that Bill was only attracted to her because of her veela side and that she was only attracted to him because of his looks which was proved wrong at the end of the book. Besides she did have some pretty snotty ways of looking at how they lived and such....not saying I'm a fan of her's just commenting on what I see.
Percy. Yes he is Molly's perfect son. Yes he thinks on his own (as far as we can tell) in as much as he does what he thinks is right no matter what his parents think. We don't know what happened when Harry was off talking in the garden. Who knows what Percy might have done/said/insinuated. Fact is no matter how unlike his family he is...they're still family. He could have tried to find a way to be at least civil to them or interact with them during holidays. But no, for the past two years/books he's done everything in his power to dissasociate himself from them and pretend they don't exist. I say Percy got what he deserved during that Christmas visit.
I admit I was thrown off by the Tonks/Remus thing. With as much as Molly was trying to hook her and Bill up I thought for certain her depression/mood swings were all because of Sirius. And I think his death (even though they weren't that close they were still family and fighting on the same side) compounded the rejection she got from Remus. Of course had I re-read the books before I read this one I might have caught on, I don't remember if in the OoP there was any clues as to their potential involvement.
And I'm jealous of the time it took you to read it. I've gotten rusty in that I don't read often anymore so it took me probably 8 hours total, possibly less, to read it.
The Harry/Ginny thing really reminded me too much of the fic I saw floating around pretending to be the next book (I think 4) where Harry goes to pieces at the Burrow before school whenever Ginny's in the room.
While I get what you're saying about the 'day to day' stuff that can be skipped because she went into so much detail before it seemed like too much got skipped. Although any more would have made for a book too hard to hold.
I think there's more I could say but I'm running out of ideas atm.
July 27 2005, 17:20:03 UTC 6 years ago
July 28 2005, 08:13:19 UTC 6 years ago
PS Check your email.